It seems there is a plot afoot to make sure that illegal aliens are not only allowed into this country, but encouraged to be here. Take for example the city of New Haven Connecticut. Now here is a bleeding heart sympathizer city who breaks the laws of the United States of America by granting IDs to illegal aliens. Isn't that just too sweet? This would make it virtually impossible for even law enforcement to decide if someone was and illegal or not. Those living around the area should protest long and loudly to get this practice STOPPED! Illegals do not and should not have the right to any form of United States identification EVER! Stupid assholes! From Lou Dobbs I give you this gem!
DOBBS: The city of New Haven, Connecticut, tonight is facing challenges to its policy that grants illegal aliens identification cards. New Haven was in fact the first city in the nation to grant identification cards to illegal aliens. Now, some other cities have decided to follow New Haven's example and there are consequences.
Bill Tucker reports from New Haven.
BILL TUCKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Nine months ago, New Haven, Connecticut, begun issuing identification cards to any resident who lacked documentation. It's a program that creates official identification for illegal aliens. The city defends its program, saying the purpose is to create identification for all residents. That illegal aliens are likely included because they don't ask anyone's legal status.
The mayor declines our request for an interview, but as of April 25, the city has issued more than 5,500 identity cards. But while the mayor isn't talking, his critics are. Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff told a Yale Law School audience that quote, "I don't think having identifications to enable people to live illegally is a good thing. It's inconsistent with the law as we have it."
That mayor is a chicken shit if ever there was one. Imagine putting up this policy and then being too afraid to stand by and defend it. RECALL TIME!!! I wonder how the people in New Haven feel about this? Or are they all illegals now? Is the population of the town mostly Hispanic? It would be interesting to find out. However, barring that, here is the info on the mayor of that special city. Any other city attempting to do this will find their name plastered here in the SHAME ON YOU category! Where is your patriotism to your own country?
Oh, and I thought it appropriate to get a good look at this asshole!
Isn't he just precious??? NOT! While I couldn't find a direct line to the mayor of this wonderful city, I did find an interesting link. Click here to listen to him defend his ID program:People like this need to be OUT off office and Americans need to lead the way. This is the ONLY patriotic thing to do.
Those critical of the program could not agree more and point out the security vulnerabilities the card creates.
NEIL BERRO, COAL. FOR SECURE DRIVER'S LICENSE: At a time when the Department of Motor Vehicles all over the country are strengthening licensing standards precisely to emphasize lawful presence requirements. This type of card creates yet another potential loophole.
Exactly! Who the hell is this mayor and whoever else trying to kid? This will NOT be tolerated in the United States of American and anyone trying to facilitate illegals in this country will be GONE! Your days are numbered mayor!
JESSICA VAUGHAN, CENTER FOR IMMIGRATION STUDIES: They actually facilitate criminal activity by enabling people to set up a new identity or to hide their criminal past or to hide their immigration status. There are all sorts of ramifications of the cards that really trump any other benefit that you can think of that they might have.
THANK YOU! We are not going to tolerate this sort of behavior in ANY U.S. city. One way or another, these illegals WILL be caught and hauled away.
TUCKER: Opponents of the I.D. card go to court later this month with the Freedom of Information request to force the release of the names of all the people over the age of 18 who have been issued an I.D. card.
TUCKER: Now, Lou, as you mentioned, New Haven was the first city to begin issuing identification to illegal aliens. But since then, San Francisco has approved a similar plan. They are due to begin implementing it soon. There has been some discussion in New York, but frankly, Lou, the discussions in New York seem to have died.
DOBBS: Well, it is great that New Haven is doing this. Just out of curiosity, why?
DOBBS: Well I got to say I love the music there, that's great.
TUCKER: Well Lou, I have to tell you, very few people showed up. There's very few left, but they're making up for that with a lot of volume right now. The reason they're doing it Lou is they're saying they have a lot of people in this town that don't have identification and they feel compelled to provide it identification for them...
They feel compelled??? I've never seen anything like this on the Rule of Law Day. Here we are celebrating our LAWS and these people bend over backwards to break those laws. Well I'll give them a break, right out of office. Time to start to campaign People of New Haven and get yourself a NEW MAYOR. Make sure any other sympathizers are also out of office. You can do this! And LA? Your Day is coming...
DOBBS: Will they be able to vote?
TUCKER: No, they won't be able to vote, but they're not checking the I.D.s either, Lou, and that's a problem a lot of people have is if you show up and give them whatever you've got, you get identification. There's no checking it.
This is proof positive that these people know, and are facilitating, the ability of these illegals to vote. This will not be tolerated in this Country! You mayor de stafano are the asshole of all time!
DOBBS: So they can vote.
TUCKER: No, no, they cannot vote. It's a city identification card. It entitles them to some city services like the library and the pool and some other city social services, but it does not allow them to vote.
DOBBS: All right. We're going to take your word for it.
Sure, and if you believe that I have some beach-front property for you here in AZ! These lying sacks of shit won't get away with it. And I hope that Judge makes sure of it.
Bill Tucker, thank you very much in New Haven, Connecticut.
And we want to update you on a story we reported to you last night. Congressman Anthony Weiner and Congressman Steven LaTourette created a Congressional Caucus, a middle class caucus and the first one ever and as of last night's broadcast a total of six Congressmen had signed on to the Caucus.
We are happy to report to you tonight that 16 more members of Congress signed on after our segment aired. And if you would like to know who is joining this Caucus on the middle class and see whether your congressman is a member yet, please logon to loudobbs.com or loudobbsradio.com as well.
YEA! And now if we can just get them all on the same page as far as illegals are concerned, life will start to improve in these United States!
DOBBS:And pro-illegal alien groups protesting the rule of law on the 50th anniversary of America's National Law Day. It's Law Day, folks. Tell those people. It's Law Day. One of the leaders of the protests and demonstrations joins me here next.
And a new report suggesting this economic slowdown is causing hardship in Mexico. We'll have that special report and tell you how the candidates are sort of spinning that little piece of information. Stay with us.
DOBBS: Turnout across the country has been very light at rallies sponsored by open borders, pro-amnesty, special interest groups on this National Law Day.
John Trasvina is the president and general counsel of the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, MALDEF. He joins us tonight from Chicago.
John, good to have you with us on the broadcast.
JOHN TRASVINA, PRES., MALDEF: Good evening, Lou.
DOBBS: Are you disappointed by the turnout?
TRASVINA: No. Not at all. No, this is a day when the immigrants come out -- out from of the shadows from their regular work really keeping this country moving forward on a number of different areas. They're in the most dangerous and difficult jobs. But today they're out proudly standing up, doing what is very American, which is peaceful protest, peaceful assembly, asking Congress to change the laws, overdue change in the immigration laws.
These are NOT Americans you moron! They don't have rights, they don't get a say and they DON'T get to have what AMERICANS get!!! If figures that the mental capabilities of the fools who are for open borders and amnesty can't figure out the simplest of ideas. No, they just want to push their agenda, even if it is AGAINST ALL AMERICAN LAWS! Where do they get these guys? Were they dropped on their heads when they were born? When talking ILLEGALS here we are not talking about Citizens! Here's an award for Stupidity! You sound, mr. trasvian, like the idiot you are!
DOBBS: Well, you say that. And perhaps many of the people you represent say that. But about -- it looks like a sizable majority of 300 million Americans say no, we're not going to do the amnesty thing. We think the law that came out as the McCain-Kennedy legislation three years ago that has been rejected twice in Congress and in most recently by the Senate just isn't the right legislation. So how...
TRASVINA: Well, once again...
DOBBS: So how...
TRASVINA: Once again you're incorrect once again. The majority of the people support these types of programs.
BULLSHIT! You don't speak for me or for anyone else against this legislation and we will make our voices heard! We are still the majority or the legislation WOULD have passed. Don't kid yourself boy!
DOBBS: John, John, please do me a favor.
TRASVINA: They support legalization, they support comprehensive immigration reform.
DOBBS: Yes, well, the Congressional Budget Office demonstrated very clearly -- the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office demonstrated clearly that comprehensive immigration reform legislation, which you supported last year, as did a lot of other people, would have only dealt with 25 percent of the illegal immigration problem.
Secondly, it would have been, point of fact, been exorbitantly expensive and would have taken up just about three-fourths of the visas of -- for the families of those who are in this country illegally who would have been given amnesty. So those are difficult, difficult hurdles for even the most fanatical enthusiasts for comprehensive immigration reform to overcome.
Why can't --
TRASVINA: Well, you know, that's one area where you and I agree, the system isn't working.
DOBBS: Right.
TRASVINA: It's not working for the American people, it's not working for the immigrants, it's not working for the nation's economy.
DOBBS: Right.
TRASVINA: It needs to be fixed. That's why people are out today...
DOBBS: Right.
TRASVINA: ...to seek those kind of fixes.
DOBBS: But also seeking to -- have the U.S. immigration laws that are infrequently, but certainly with increasing frequency, being enforced by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Don't you think it's a little bold to demand that laws are not -- be not enforced?
TRASVINA: Of course not. The movement for against segregation laws back in the '60s, the same kind of demonstrations. You would deny those people back in the '60s, black, white, Asian, Latinos, together fighting -- coming out and marching, you would deny those people the right to peaceably assembly? I don't think so. On this particular issue, the nation's needs to be heard. The nation's needs need to be heard.
OH PAALEASE! DO NOT EVEN SAY THIS IS THE SAME THING AS WHAT WE DID BACK IN THE 60S. THIS IS NOTHING LIKE THAT. TO EVEN THINK YOU CAN COMPARE APPLES TO ORANGES AND GET THE SAME FRUIT IS RIDICULOUS!
DOBBS: All we're hearing from...
TRASVINA: The current system isn't working.
DOBBS: Right. All we're hearing from -- we've heard very clearly as has the U.S. Senate and these presidential candidates, by the way, that the majority of Americans are opposed to a blanket amnesty and will not stand for it.
TRASVINA: Well, the Tancredo part of the party didn't win.
DOBBS: Oh please, please.
TRASVINA: Tancredo did win. Duncan Hunter didn't win. The three remaining candidates Senators Clinton, Senator Obama and Senator McCain, have supported comprehensive immigration reform, as do the majority of the American people, Lou.
DON'T FORGET THERE IS A FOURTH CANDIDATE: RON PAUL. HE WON'T BETRAY AMERICANS. VOTE RON PAUL! GET YOUR STATE TO PUT HIM ON THE BALLOT THIS FALL, HE DOESN'T STAND FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS OR AMNESTY!
DOBBS: Actually, they don't, the majority, that is, of the American people. But let's get to the real issue. Why is it that corporate America on the right, if you will, and on the left, social (INAUDIBLE) centrist activist groups, you know, various left-wing groups have met on the issue of exploiting illegal labor in this country, want a free pass on it, and refuse and resist to secure our borders when at a time when the principal victims of the -- the principal source, of course, of methamphetamines, heroin, cocaine, and marijuana is Mexico, yet the very people who purport to represent the -- some of the ethnic peoples in this country who are being most devastated by addiction and by those drugs, are refusing to secure the border?
Don't -- do you think that's irresponsible?
TRASVINA: Well, your side of the debate is allowing the United States to do nothing on these issues.
DOBBS: No, no, actually, John, that is not...
DOBBS: I said secure the border. You haven't got the guts to say the same thing.
TRASVINA: Absolutely.
DOBBS: You secure the border -- look, I'll join with you and we'll work out -- we can sit here and talk about immigration law. But you're playing your gamings.
TRASVINA: MALDEF is an organization of lawyers. We believe in the law. And...
DOBBS: Then why don't you enforce it instead of call for its lack of enforcement?
TRASVINA: Part of - legalization, part of enforcement is legalization. It's an overall picture. So it's enforcing the law. Of course, we absolutely support it.
No it isn't. How did a man purportedly so smart, smart enough to become a lawyer, get to be so dumb? One has nothing to do with the other. You enforce existing LAWS and maybe you work within the system to change those laws. But you DO NOT advocate breaking existing laws to accommodate illegals! That is idiotic!
DOBBS: Do you want to legalize marijuana, heroin, cocaine, methamphetamines? Because that's what -- those drugs are killing people in the very ethnic group that you purport to represent.
TRASVINA: Look, Lou, you can get on different subjects all you want. On the issue of immigration...
Oh, of course let's NOT talk about important issues. By all MEANS, let's ignore this fact all together. Pander, Pander, Pander. Do these guys ever listen to themselves? I mean really. Logic dictates these are the SAME issues or part of those issues, but let's NOT talk about that!!! Give me a break here!
DOBBS: I'm not -- it's all about the border, it's all about securing this border, it's all about enforcing our laws.
TRASVINA: No. A lot of people come in, don't even come across the border, and they come in legally and overstay their visas. So it's not -- don't focus on the border.
DOBBS: Oh don't focus on the border?
TRASVINA: You can behind it all you want.
DOBBS: Is it that inconvenient to you?
TRASVINA: No. it's not...
DOBBS: You're the one hiding here.
TRASVINA: We're talking...
DOBBS: You're obfuscating.
In case ANYONE doesn't know what OBFUSCATE MEANS: From Marrion-Webster Dictionary online we get this:
obfuscate
One entry found.obfuscate
Main Entry:
ob·fus·cate Listen to the pronunciation of obfuscate
Pronunciation:
\ˈäb-fə-ˌskāt; äb-ˈfəs-ˌkāt, əb-\
Function:
verb
Inflected Form(s):
ob·fus·cat·ed; ob·fus·cat·ing
Etymology:
Late Latin obfuscatus, past participle of obfuscare, from Latin ob- in the way + fuscus dark brown — more at ob-, dusk
Date:
1577transitive verb1 a: darken b: to make obscure 2: confuse intransitive verb: to be evasive, unclear, or confusing
This is most definitely what the man is doing. Not wanting to answer direct questions about real issues. Just like a lawyer... Don't confuse me with the facts!
TRASVINA: Lou, we're talking about addressing comprehensive immigration. The nation's needs. You had earlier on about...
DOBBS: The nation's needs?
TRASVINA: Yes.
DOBBS: The nation's needs.
TRASVINA: The American heritage of the nation of welcoming immigrations. Immigrants improving themselves and...
And this nation will continue to welcome Immigrants, LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, not ILLEGALS! There is a big difference in the two and just because some deceitful lawyer words things a certain way that it SOUNDS GOOD, doesn't make it true or truthful! Even those of Hispanic origins that are here LEGALLY say illegals are NOT THE SAME AS THEY ARE AND NEVER WILL BE. WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO KID?
DOBBS: John, John...
TRASVINA: ...and improving the nation.
DOBBS: Let me ask you a question.
TRASVINA: Today's immigrants are no different than the immigrants of the past.
DOBBS: OK.
TRASVINA: Whether they're Pennsylvania Dutch, the Italian...
DOBBS: I'll tell you what, I'm going to ask you a question, you ask me a question. A fair deal? And we'll give an answer.
TRASVINA: It's your show. Go ahead.
DOBBS: Well, no. I'm asking if you would agree. We're friends. Don't kid anybody here. You and I have gotten along very well.
TRASVINA: Well, we get along very well, but that's about it, Lou. Go ahead.
DOBBS: OK. So let's -- are you willing to do that? I'll ask you a question, you ask me one.
TRASVINA: Yes, go ahead, Lou.
DOBBS: All right. Let me ask you this, if, in point of fact, we could secure the borders, would you be willing to secure those borders and ports, and then begin the process of reforming our laws or would you resist that idea absolutely?
TRASVINA: The two go hand in hand. Legalization is helping us secure the nation.
DOBBS: You and I both...
TRASVINA: So you have an artificial distinction between what you're saying enforce the laws and other -- everything else is reform. It's all reform. The system needs to be reformed, whether it's the border security, or whether it is the entry-exit system, or the legalization, or the long waits for family leave...
DOBBS: We could have had -- we would be on the issue right now. We could be undergoing a very vigorous reform of our immigration laws had your organization and others not resisted securing that border.
TRASVINA: Absolutely not. You're just incorrect, Lou. The people who want to debate on the bill want to move forward.
DOBBS: You get your question.
TRASVINA: I don't have a question for you, Lou. But what I want to say...
DOBBS: Sure.
TRASVINA: ...is that we could have had comprehensive immigration reform because most of the American people want the overall perspective of comprehensive immigration reform. Not just one part of it, not another part of it. Every time Congress has done just one piece, it's failed. It has to do both. It has to address the legal immigration and illegal.
You go right ahead and keep telling yourself that, maybe one day you will believe it. The rest of us, the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS, LEGAL AMERICANS WILL NOT STAND FOR AMNESTY. No way. We won't have it and you will be fighting a losing battle the rest of your life on that one. The more these people get in our faces, the more determined we are they won't get SHIT!
DOBBS: It's has last (INAUDIBLE). John -- it has to do what?
TRASVINA: It must address both legal immigration and illegal immigration together.
DOBBS: All right.
TRASVINA: It didn't do that the last time.
DOBBS: Oh I agree with you on that actually.
John, thank you very much. John Trasvina...
TRASVINA: Thank you, Lou.
DOBBS: ...on this our National Law Day. We appreciate your being with us.
Still ahead, our country's economic crisis being felt across our border. We'll have that report in a great deal more. Stay with us.
DOBBS: This country is struggling. Our economy making it harder for Latino immigrants including illegal aliens to send back money to their relatives. According to a new survey, only half of the Latino immigrants living in this country are now sending money back regularly. That's down 73 percent just two years ago.
That's where the transcript ended. Sorry to say but I would have enjoyed the rest of it. So, from my views and Lou Dobbs, there you have the show. It was awesome and one of the reasons I love CNN's Lou Dobbs so much. Lou Dobbs does try to be fair with his guests even if they don't think so. I find that most of them have a problem with the questions he asks of them. Too bad. If you aren't prepared to answer the hard questions, stay off the Lou Dobbs show.
Lawyers lie and they love to take money from fools. I think this is a foolish endeavor. But hey, it is these fools money right? Let them spend it however they want to. And while this attorney can say the majority of Americans want amnesty for illegals, it doesn't make it true.
I also have to wonder about the victims of crime from illegal aliens. How hard must this be on them to see those in our country trying to give amnesty to these law breakers??? What a travesty to even consider this sort of legislation.
HELL NO MAKE THEM GO! HELL NO MAKE THEM GO! HELL NO MAKE THEM GO!


